Atheist Upbringing

How do you bring up children to be atheists? How do you bring up children to be free to be atheist? How do you inoculate children against irrational beliefs?

These are all questions that I have to deal with as I have two children and a Christian wife. I haven't. Do you have any suggestions?

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I am working on the assumption that starting with a good basis in science and wonder will help. Religious people so often use the beauty of nature as if it was a testament to why their version of the Universe is better than ours. I have to strongly disagree. Biology is a wonderful subject, and it should be taught with wonder as the key ingredient.

Biology gives a child the key to the kingdom. Biology can help a child understand why animals exist. They can absorb the basic ideas of the imperative to reproduce, the first step to understanding evolution. Teach your child why there are flowers, why the plant gives away food. The birds and the bees. Once a child understands that everything an animal or a plant does is for a reason, and not our reason, they know their place in the Universe. Not at the right hand of the creator god at the top table, but as the child of a successful series of successful men and women who survived against the odds. Everything around them that is alive is also there because it has survived, because it had what it takes.

Help your children to ask good questions. Many questions that seem deep and meaningful are not, the answers to them provide no great insights. Why is the sky blue? The answer is so boring I keep forgetting. What is the meaning of life? There isn't one, sorry, dumb question. Why are precious stones precious? EXCELLENT question, well worth looking at. Rarity is a factor but diamonds are not really rare, most western women own several. Something only becomes valuable if it is desired, diamonds and other precious stones are desired by all races and cultures in all periods in history. Why? Now that is a good question.

Why has the giraffe got a long neck daddy? So it can reach the ground to drink. A better question is why it has such long legs...

A good question is the secret to a good education. Don't waste your time with answers that are not worth finding.

Comparative religion is a good idea for a child. Let your child know that there are six different religions held by the parents of the children at your school. It is then obvious that they cannot all be right. It then opens up the possibility that maybe none of them are right. You don't even need to suggest that to them, they will think it for themselves.

If you have any ideas to contribute I am waiting to hear them.

hey. I came across your webpage today. You said that you had two children that you wanted to raise to be atheist. Like you had said in one of your articles, children are not born theists, they become them. My parents were never religious people at all...and because my mom is Jewish and my dad is Catholic there was a lot of confusion as to how I was to be raised. Therefore, I was brainwashed with neither. Because I wasn't preached to all my life, I had an oppurtunity to discover things for myself and follow my own beliefs. As long as religion isn't forced upon children the day they are born, they can become immune to it.

Actually my wife wants my children raised as Christians. We have an uneasy truce. I have not spoken to either of my children about belief in God, I am trying to simply give them the basic analytical tools to help them see through it. I hope this will be enough. If they ask me about my beliefs I will tell them. But I would prefer to keep silent until they are old enough to understand for themselves fully. There is no point talking to children about not believing in God when they still believe in the tooth fairy.

Hi there, I am a 19 year old atheist, who wandered upon your site one day. This is a wonderful website, and I hope that it continues to grow. In particular, I am writing in response to your "Atheist Upbringing" article. I was wondering why, if you intend to raise your children with a firm base of logic and science, you continue to encourage belief in other myths--such as the tooth fairy? On a more personal note, I would like to ask a bit of advice from you. You say that your wife is a christian, and I'm sure you have experienced a few problems that stem from interreligious marriage. My fiance is a recently born-again christian, and I'm afraid that this may cause problems in our relationship. If you don't mind, could you offer some suggestions as to what problems may arise? If so, I would really appreciate it

First I must say that I have never encouraged my children to believe in any form of bullshit. The tooth fairy and Father Christmas (that's Santa Claus without an American accent) are difficult to avoid. My wife talks about them, I don't. She won't let me tell the children that they are made up. That would "spoil things for them". I just keep quiet.

I expect that my son will follow my ideas when the time comes for him to chose. He seems to enjoy finding out the reasons behind things, he has a natural curiosity and a willingness to accept and understand scientific explanations, even when these are difficult to grasp. I am not so sure about my daughter, she is bright but seems to be interested in religion and she seems to be open to its influence. At the moment I am not telling them anything about my beliefs. Perhaps they will ask me one day, maybe they will never ask, just come to understand. Do children lose their belief in fairies and the rest in one go or does it just fade away? Perhaps they will just fade into knowing that their parents have differences about God. Time will tell.

As for advice about how to cope with the situation of marriage to a believer I am on difficult ground. I suppose that the most honest thing for me to do is to tell you what I really think. You need to get it out into the open before it is too late. You need to come up with a formal agreement about what you are going to do. You need to know about church attendance and plans to educate children, I assume you have already discussed the matter of children? If not that really needs to be sorted out, you have to know that your plans are compatible. If you cannot get a mutually acceptable agreement on this fundamental issue you should not marry. Marriage is a working relationship. You have to get the fundamentals sorted out. If there is no room for Jesus in your partnership it is much better to break things off. Religion nowadays probably breaks up more marriages than it holds together. So, tackle this issue, get an agreement if you can and get it witnessed in some way. Tell your parents, as a couple, or tell whoever is going to marry the pair of you or at the very least tell somebody you can both trust what you have agreed. Agreeing to differ is a realistic option, but avoiding the issue is not a sensible strategy.

Problems will only arise if you fail to prepare. You might differ on church attendance and time spent in religious activity or observance. Get it agreed upfront how much is acceptable to you. I don't have a problem with this as my wife goes to church only rarely, but it would be a problem if it became necessary for her to go every Sunday, it might affect my career options for example. Many careers need the option of being able to work on Sunday, even if only infrequently. Naturally money could be a problem, having an invisible pixie in the sky is one thing, paying a tithe is something else, that too needs to be talked about. Then there is the problem of friends. When you marry things change, you become a unit, your friends become couples too. Make sure you are not going to be expected to be half of a Christian couple. Being a lone voice of sanity in a couple is one thing, in a sea of holy couples is another. Well that is my advice for what it is worth. It is my 11th wedding anniversary on Saturday, so far so good. We did talk it through a bit before we were married, but I think we would have benefited from doing so more.

Martin, I don't know if this will help you, but I was raised by My Uncle who was a Fundamentalist Christian, It was expected of me to also do the Altar call one day and Pledge my Life to Christ (whatever that means). I happened upon Plato's republic when I was 14. I read the parable of the cave often and Much. I attribute my Immunity to bullshit such as religion. To finally understanding that perception is our own reality, and this perception has little or nothing to do with reality. Once you've seen the light, the darkness of the cave is no longer appealing. I encourage you to break your silence about your beliefs. Your children may think you expect them to be whatever their mother wants them to be (Spiritually).

Remember, silence is almost the same as consent. Unless your wife, your children's friends, neighbors, relatives etc. all agree to remain silent about religion long enough to let your children make up their own minds, you will be the only unheard voice on the subject.

Christopher

Just exactly what does pledging your life to Christ mean? The whole concept of Christianity is riddled with contradiction and absurdity. Why would a God create people and allow them to be sinful? Why do people think that everything is here for our benefit? How do they explain God's ineffable purpose in creating salmonella and head lice? Or even more bizarre how can they see a benefit in genetic diseases that simply kill their hosts and do not even benefit bacteria or viruses? Perhaps God has bred them to help feed the worms. The idea that such questions are impertinent and should not be asked strikes me as thoroughly evil and twisted.

I can see little reason to talk to my children about God until they are old enough to understand. I am laying down the groundwork now, with teaching biology in a realistic way (a gene's eye perspective). I became an atheist at around 12 years old, I think that forcing the point too early would not be a good idea. They will ask the questions at some time and when they do I will answer them, but I will not force the point. Only if my children reach their mid teens without saying anything will I consider the possibility of broaching the subject myself, I consider that to be extremely unlikely.

Martin

10 ways to bring up an atheist child...

1. Force him or her to go to church every Sunday without exception.

2. Make your child go to Youth Group after school every day.

3. Tell your child every day to be good, otherwise god won't want him/her in Heaven.

4. Make your child read the Bible every evening, and quiz him/her on it.

5. Put your son or daughter in the church choir at a very early age and make them practice at home every day. 6. Discourage creative thought and reinforce ignorance. "God is because He is."

7. During summer vacation, don't hesitate to sign your child up for Vacation Bible School!

8. Have your child enrolled in a Christian private school.

9. Answer every question your child asks about nature ("Why is the sky blue?") with "Because God made it that way."

10. Ask your child on a regular basis what Jesus did for him/her.

If you do all these things, your child will most certainly grow up to become an atheist, because he/she will vehemently despise the Church and anything associated with it! Many of these things were done to me as a child, and, lo and behold, I'm about as atheistic as one can get!

Your website is a beacon of light in a raging sea of stupidity!

Nick

I will certainly not be teaching my children to be atheists, that seems to be a good way to turn them into cult-fodder. I will just be reasonable, answer all their questions and lead by example.

I was made to say my prayers a bit at home, but not much. Singing in the choir was a bit of a pain but I just got used to it, I didn't feel excessively put on. My resentment was aimed at religion in general not at the Church or my parents, and never at God. The idea of not believing in God in order to spite God is laughable, it only works for twisted people with no natural sense of rationality. I found rationality was the key virtue, things should make sense, if they do not then they should be discarded. God simply did not make sense, so out he went, nothing personal.

Martin

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