HOW THERE YOU!!!!!!
Hello,
I am unlike you a devote monarchist!
You Sir have many points, which are WRONG!
The Queen does a hell of a lot for this country!
If you don’t like her, well move to France as they executed their
monarch 200 years a go.
And how there you call Queen Victoria a cow.
If you call your self British or English you should not. As people like
you make this country crap! So I say to you, if you don’t like
the monarch move to a other country because I and others don’t
want you HERE!
Thank you
Also if I get any Spam you will be reported as it is against
the law. And you do not want to know what I think of you in my
own thoughts, as they are not nice ones!
Daniel Jellyman |
Would you like to actually list what the Queen does and explain
why it cannot be done by anybody else for a fraction of the cost
without having the people of this country permanently bowing to
somebody because of which bed they were born in?
What does "how there you" mean? It isn't what I recognize
as English, the Queen's or anybody else's.
I am far more English than Elizabeth Windsor, who is of largely
German descent and married to a German descended man who somehow
got to be a Greek prince.
England is where I, an Englishman, belong. It is my duty to
make England better. Getting rid of outmoded institutions such
as monarchy and your style of simple-minded deference is a great
start.
What is against the law Daniel? I made it very clear that I
will publish your email and if you don't want that to happen
don't send the message. That was as plain as Princess Anne.
It seems to me that you have volunteered to have your email
published. If you don't like the consequences of the action
you chose to take you have nobody else to blame but yourself.
I think people who misrepresent the law should be charged with
an offence, it cannot be right that ignorance of the law is
no defence and yet people are free to misrepresent what the
law is and pull bogus laws out of their arse at the drop of
a hat. What exactly are the terms of this hypothetical You
can't do that, that's spamming law you think exists and
when was it passed?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
To Mr Martin Willett,
First I would like thank you for pointing out the grammar mistake.
I am truly sorry. I also have a lot of respect towards people,
which wants the country to be better. But you do not have all
my respect, as you are a republican I believe. The law, which
I said, does not exist like you say. It normally scares people
off from spaming I find. Also I am happy for the emails to be
published. I stand up for what I believe in.
We do not 'bow' down to her. America is a good example. You
might agree that Gorge Bush is not the greatest President the
US has ever had.
The Queen and the Royal family are brought up and got ready for the job
of leading the state. As you and I and others have not. So you could
have another Hitler on your hands.
The Queen along with stopping and passing bills, which the
government put though she is also a symbol and this country.
Which has a lot of History. So she is not old fashioned because
she was not born in 1700 for example. To elect the head of state
we as taxpayers have to pay more to start a election. This is
more than we pay the Queen in two years.
I have more arguments but you said to keep it small.
The modern British public don’t mind the Queen. Like
Spain, which just reinstated the Monarch.
If she left were would the Church be, I go to Church so I and
others would have to make do with another religion, which we
don’t want.
I am not simple minded, far from it. I love this country and so I love
the Queen. And I take into account other views as well.
Yours faithfully
Daniel |
Why do you assume we need an elected president? To answer my
own question it is the only way to make her Madge seem like a
bargain. The Queen doesn't do anything, she is a figurehead for
an unelected and unseen "Buckingham
Palace" machine. Everything the Queen does could be done
by either the Speaker of the House of Commons or senior civil
servants such as ambassadors. No new staff would be needed and
certainly no elections.
Have you actually read the page you are overreacting to?
England has plenty of history to be proud of without making
any reference to royalty.
As to the Church of England it should be disestablished at
once. Establishment is a terrible anachronism which does no
service to either the state or the Church. If the Church wants
to have the Queen as its head then by all means, as long as
neither the Church nor the monarchy is formally connected with
the state I care not one jot what you decide to do with her.
The idea that getting rid of the monarchy would somehow stop
people belonging to the Church that wanted to belong is madness.
The Church should be like any other religious order, open to
all voluntary members. Compulsory membership of a church is
a terrible idea, it is a violation of Prince Charles' human
rights to make him the leader of the Church just because he
is his mother's son.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
Dear Martin
Why should she not be the Queen? Why should she not lead us?
You don’t have to answer any of them. If we do not want
a monarch.
Do you not think by now she would have gone? After world war two perhaps.
They tried with Queen Victoria but they wanted to keep her.
Throughout history men like you and others always point out floors. Either
in the queen or religion. Why are you against her?
Are you jealous of her? And why not should it be her?
Why should it be Jo Boggs down the street? We have had a monarch for
a thousand years. And you want to stop that. And others don’t.
We are one of the modernist countries in Europe. The queen is still there.
What’s the difference between a president and a monarch?
One is elected and the other is born. it sounds to me martin that you
are a bit communist (sorry if it offends you) you want everyone to be
equal. And you don’t want someone to get something for nout.
Yours Faithfully
Daniel |
I want everybody to have an equal chance, but not to be equal.
You want to be subservient and it seems like that is the natural
order of things. You're not very smart. You know your place. You
are probably happiest on your knees. I on the other hand do not
want to be made to look up to people who are more stupid than
I am.
Why would you want somebody else to get something for nowt?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
Dear Martin
I am not stupid! And I know my place. My GOD SIR I am higher
in society than you. My family has worked its way up.
We now own a number of properties across this country.
The Queen and the Royal Family has deserved to be higher than you. I
call you a communist and don’t give a dam what you think.
You are simple minded because you think I am thick when you don’t
listen to other people views
Yours not a thick as you
Dan
P.S
This debate is about why we should have a Queen or not. NOT about our
personal selves. |
I judge people as I find them. You come across as stupid. You
have offered no reasons for your beliefs and you have done nothing
to defend your views. All you have done is express your views
while your language use has been decidedly below par.
Why has the Royal family deserved to be higher than
me? How can a family deserve anything? You have offered
no reasons at all. If you have no reasons to justify your beliefs
you should silently slip away not get more and more agitated.
I have offered plenty of reasons to explain my attitude to
the institution of royalty and to explain why it is corrosive
to the social and moral fibre of the nation and how Britain
or England could easily manage without a monarchy. All you have
done is get hysterical and rant. I think you have no solid reasoning
behind your attitude, no reasoning that you can frame and defend.
I am quite prepared to believe your family has worked its way
up, but what have you done? The reason for getting
rid of the monarchy is to get rid of the idea that people count
because of their families and their family's wealth. Your family
may have been hard working, entrepreneurial or shrewd wheeler-dealers
quick-witted enough not to get caught. Whatever the story that
does not make you any more or less than what you are in your
own skin.
An idiot son of a Duke is just as much of an idiot as the idiot
son of a dustman or the idiot son of a self-made millionaire.
Your sensitivity to class makes me think you are quite happy
to get more than you yourself deserve and ride on the achievements
of your family.
I was quite prepared to listen to you justify your views but
all I can perceive is strength of feeling and a total lack of
rational thought. Have you started shaving yet?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
Shaving? Yes. The monach. Should still be here. You sound to
me like a communist.
You also sound like a prick. I have never met you and you have never
met me. And nethier would I like too meet you. I have many reasons for
keeping the monarch. But you seem to say the same thing. they are the
backbone of socity.
They help us when we grife. and i reckon if you had one chance to rule
this country. We would have to say to you HAIL MARTIN MEIN FUHRER! I
will defend my viwes to the end.
Any More Insults to me? |
You claim to have many reasons for keeping the monarch but
you haven't offered any of them. It seems to me you want to keep
the monarchy for the same reason I want to remove it: because
it is a symbol of the past, of privilege, "breeding" and
of and wealth, rank and respect earned by earlier generations
passed on to their offspring.
How can anybody be born deserving of rank and respect?
Prince Charles had the finest education money could buy and
achieved a mediocre degree. He isn't clever, he isn't smart
or shrewd or a beacon of morality. He hasn't got an appreciation
of the national character and he does not seem to be in touch
with the mood of the nation. He doesn't represent anything that
requires representing and he was not selected for the job in
any way. How can you defend that? I see you are avoiding doing
so.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
The Queen theoretically. she can still start a war and she
can still dissolve parliment!
This brings me on to my biggest point. Imagine having the power to send
that braying bunch of ne'er-do-wells from the palace of Westminster home,
and not doing it. Not even for a bit of fun, during a party.
Whatever you may think of the Queen she has willpower, that is for sure.
You may argue that she has too much money passed on from ancestors.
This may be true. But what would she speend it on? An Aston? You say
say she should by replaced with a president.
But who? At the cost of 82p per person per year why should it be someone
who does not desreve it? And why not Charles or William? |
"At the cost of 82p per person per year why should it be someone
who does not desreve it? "
Isn't that MY point? (apart from the spelling mistake)
How the hell can being born to the right mother at a particular time
make anybody deserve a job, any job? What did you do to deserve to be
born to your mother when you were? What job on the public payroll do
you deserve to get for managing to do that?
Why don't you read the page? For the love of humanity read
the page and you will see what I am proposing so you don't need
to ask those rhetorical questions that you think are so clever, I
have already anticipated them all and answered them.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
Dear Martin
So you are saying from what I can see is that you should not
get something from being born. Well let’s say we get rid
of the Monarch and just have a MP.
What gives the prime Minster the right to be the PM. He has been born.
Just like the Queen. And if he is meant to be the PM he is, the same
as the Queen. Now on your page it says don’t ask me any question.
This one is not a rhetorical question. I want to see if you can answer
it. Why do you not like the Queen? So far you have not said I have said
why I like her.
And in case you forgot. She is a figurehead, which helps this country
and makes us who we are.
Yours
Daniel |
I think I will have to take this slowly, but that will only
work if you read it slowly too. Can you do that? Lip movements
are optional.
Being born doesn't make anybody qualified to be Prime Minister.
To become Prime Minister a person has to become elected to the
House of Commons and lead or at least gain the full support
of a political party which has a majority of the seats in the
House. To do this usually takes somebody of exceptional ability.
Elizabeth Windsor has no educational qualifications and no
vocational qualifications. Her CV reads:
Didn't go to school
Got taught how to be a princess and speak a bit of French
Had a go at being an ambulance driver in the war (No 230873 Second
Subaltern Elizabeth Windsor)
Did a bit more princessing
Met this spiffing Prince Philip chappie, very handsome
Got married
Has two children, one of each (a prince and a princess)
Daddy died, became Queen
Has two more little princes
What gives the Prime Minister the right to be Prime Minister?
The will of the people expressed through parliament.
Nobody gets to be Prime Minister without being bright, quick-witted
and respected. Like them or loathe them any fair-minded person
has to see that British Prime Ministers are never drooling idiots,
you simply cannot be a simpleton and get to lead a major political
party in Britain. You can be King just by being the first child
the right mother has with a dick. (Yes, that sentence is ambiguous,
I'll leave it like that).
It is totally irrelevant whether I like
Elizabeth Windsor or not as a person, actually I think
she's alright, about as smart as the average daytime TV
presenter, and she keeps her dirty linen well out of sight,
we could do a lot worse. And that's the problem. We could
easily do worse. It is a genetic lottery and sometime
soon it is inevitable that we will lose big time. Looking
at Charles I think that time may come in my lifetime. |
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If we elect a shower of wankers into a majority in parliament
we may end up with somebody not very good as Prime Minister,
but we're not going to be stuck with them until they die.
A country doesn't need a figurehead who is a real person. The
job of figurehead is best left to statues and mythical characters
such as Britannia, John Bull, Uncle Sam or Marianne.
Uncle Sam never gets caught in bed with his valet or talking
to trees. Marianne never gets criticized for getting the air
force to take her and some chums golfing. Britannia never gets
divorced and John Bull has never been suspected of conspiracy
to murder or having been cuckolded by his wife.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
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