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In your Mind section under the heading "Advice for the Young" and subheadings "Age, experience, corruption. Ignorance, innocence, naivety" and "Casual Sex" you stated that virginity is of no massive value. Your support being the evidence that the majority of people have a life partner and, in turn, have regular sex with that partner. Thus, the conclusion from your argument is that virginity is not important because we are all destined to have sex anyway. As a female, I believe that virginity is a very important part of one's life. To me it defines a person. Having sex isn't just about sex. It is about making a conscious decision to chose to take the action necessary to bring life into the world, to raise it and to teach it. That same feeling should hold for men as well. They, after all, are part of this life bringing process. Also, it is deciding whether or not one wants to be susceptible to so many sexually transmitted diseases, some of which can be deadly. Therefore, virginity is a choice. It is choosing to not reproduce which is a hard decision to make for any young person with the pressures he/she will face in today's world. It is also a decision to stay healthy and makes one positive that they will not die from some horrible disease. Please comment on this.

You seem to value virginity highly and at the same time be unaware of the existence of condoms. Also you describe yourself as female, and not as a woman. Just a stab in the dark, are you a Catholic?

I would appreciate your answer to this before I take this any further. You know a lot about where I am coming from already, I would like to know a bit more about you.

Martin Willett

http://mwillett.org/

Of course I know about the existence of condoms. But, any method of birth control is not going to be fool proof. Becoming sexually active is still a decision, whether or not young people are aware of it, to reproduce. As for describing myself as a female, I was simply showing that to any 'female' virginity should be important. After all, we are the ones who must ovulate every month, then we must carry the child for nine months once we do get pregnant, and bring that child into the world when the time comes. After that, we must breast feed that child. To me, losing ones virginity should be a hard decision for any female, girl, woman, whatever you want to call us, to make. And, for your information, I do not affiliate myself with any religion. If I did, I would be saying that a woman's only purpose on this earth is to reproduce and I cannot, will not, believe that. This is why I regard virginity so highly. Choosing to remain a virgin is choosing another purpose for one's life other than reproduction. That, also, is a hard decision to make.

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If you are aware of condoms, which protect (admittedly only partially) against both disease and unwanted pregnancy then the question that comes to the surface in my brain is this. Are you choosing to remain a virgin or are you choosing not to have sex? There is a distinction. Also I have to be a little brutal here, are you actually choosing not to have sex or are you in fact making a virtue out of necessity?

Does belonging to a religion make you say that a woman's only purpose in life is reproduction? I find that difficult to accept.

I don't accept the notion that deciding to become sexually active is deciding to reproduce. Not in an era of contraceptive choice, emergency contraception and availability of abortion. It would only be such a decision if the woman was adamant that she would never terminate a pregnancy, in that circumstance it is a choice of the nature you state. Contraceptives can fail, sometimes even without conscious or unconscious help from their users.

I still think you have the advantage of me here. I do not know where you come from, what you believe or how old you are. It is rather difficult to debate in such a vacuum. Are you an attractive 16 year old cheerleader-type fingering a silver ring or a bitter fifty something with a moustache to rival Magnum? :-)

Martin Willett

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I would say that I am choosing to remain a virgin. My choice is neither out of necessity nor is it out of bitterness. It is just a choice. Instead of succumbing to my 'primitive instincts' I will live life like a higher level thinking being should...by thinking before I act. I still believe that becoming sexually active is deciding to reproduce for two main reasons. As anyone should know, about 87% of the world follows some kind of religion with the major religious groups not believing in the use of contraceptives. Therefore, members of those religious groups will inevitably produce offspring when they become sexually active. You also stated that this is an "era of contraceptive choice" but there are many countries in this world who do not have the money or resources to make such a choice. So what happens to them? The answer...they have kids! I would also like to point out that sex is the only means by which to reproduce (unless you count artificial insemination which is a different issue altogether). It is common in every species on the planet, but there is a difference between us and them. We have the ability to choose. In the animal kingdom, it is just an instinct that comes and goes with the seasons, but in the world of human beings, IT IS A CHOICE. Of course there are other decisions that are made along with that choice. Should you use birth control, what kind, how often. Those decisions are about how to stop reproduction so, in the end, it is all about REPRODUCTION.

I don't think it is about reproduction unless you choose to think that way. I am pretty certain that animals do not start their mating rituals because they plan on reproducing. I would be very surprised if any non-human animals have ever worked out the facts of life. They respond to urges with particular behaviour patterns.

We are also animals and our behaviour does not depend on us understanding what we are doing. We compete for status and seek out attractive people to be with who would enhance the fitness of our genes but at no time does all that have to click into place and register with us on a conscious level. We respond to love, flattery and lust. We don't think to ourselves that we have been programmed into action by the patterns our brains have developed subject to the surges of chemical stimulation caused by our endocrine systems. We pair off because we want to, our biology is who we are, there is no place for a higher self to live. You are your body, you cannot exist anywhere else, you cannot have any desires which are above your biology.

Remaining a virgin is a reasonable strategy for a happy life as long as you do not miss out on the chances to have a sexual relationship and children if that is in your plan. Women differ a lot from each other. Many women do not require a lot of sex, that is a fact of life. Some women of course are extremely sexual and would find living as a virgin an intolerable imposition on their personality. If you are content to remain a virgin then I respect your choice. I would strongly object to anybody promoting virginity as the only valid option or even the preferred path. My own hunch is that if women were allowed a real free choice over the matter without any pressure from family, church or peer group then about a third of women would be happier to pursue the virgin-until-betrothed path than the current situation in which many feel pressured into losing their virginity just to say they have done so.

Fidelity can be very important to a woman. While some of the women who would feel happier saving themselves for a life-long partner will be less sexually active and have a lower sex drive than average I am also fairly confident that many will be able to be the ideal woman, the virgin bride who turns into a warm and responsive wife with a healthy, but monogamous, sex drive. But there are many women, probably more than half, who find the current idea of having several sexual partners when they are young and then later settling for a longer term partnership to be the best way in which to express their desires and to live their lives.

Virginity is a reasonable and respectable choice, but it is an unreasonable demand.

Martin Willett

http://mwillett.org/

Well said, Mr. Willett. To demand virginity on a species who is accustomed to casual intercourse is certainly unreasonable. My only wish is that individuals would take the time to think about what they are doing before the jump into a situation head first. Thank you for the discussion; it was quite enjoyable. Perhaps we can discuss another topic some other time.

Sincerely, Michelle

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