Isn't it odd, how evolutionists put their faith in the protocell lottery - that is, about one in a billion chances of having arisen from non-life - then, turn right around and dismiss any probability, (however remote) of protocell (apes and man) being God's creation.

Sue Botchie

I, and I think Martin too, look at all the evidence presented and make our best estimate of what the truth is based on that evidence. I understand the arguments and see evidence of how it is possible that over billions of years across billions of light years, a few chemicals could have gotten together and have the tendency to replicate. Once this starts, and has stable conditions for a few geologic blinks, more and more complexity will arise as the replicators compete for limited resources. I don't have proof of course, but absolute proof is very elusive in any endeavor.

I have listened to the evidence for the God hypothesis and have found it much easier to explain the evidence by the need of humans to have an explanation for natural phenomena. When an explanation was not forthcoming, God was brought in. In the recent past there has been less of a need for God to explain these phenomena, however the political and social structures associated with God's followers still exist. The ideas, such as that of eternal life after death, are still popular and get repeated. The concept of faith gets attached to these ideas. Faith acts like a wall that hinders questioning of an idea, helping it persist.

I must admit that I am not sure what evidence it would take for me to believe that we were created by God. But, if God does exist but cannot be detected, then isn't he irrelevant? You might say that people feel--detect--the presence of God in their soul. I have had similar emotions and can understand that they needn't come from a supernatural creator, but can be created from a super complex brain. I don't dismiss the probability of a creator God, I just haven't seen any convincing evidence for one. Why don't you visit the forum where you can discuss your ideas with a broader crowd.

Mark

Dear Martin,

are atheists' inflated opinions of their intellect - like they (collectively) own the word. You may be world travelers, but the question still remains: Do you get out enough?

Have a nice day!

Sue

Interesting thoughts, they are almost in sentences. Keep trying, perhaps you will master them eventually.

There is an implicit assumption in your message that "getting out" is in some way good. Getting out and changing ourselves into reflections of the people around us? This might be a good thing if the other people we might interact with had a better bead on reality than we have. Is there any evidence for this? The people who get out more fit in better, because they adapt themselves to the world. Did Jesus fit in? Or did he try to get the world to fit with his ideas? Which lesson should we learn, do as I say or do as I do?

Lies damn lies and parables. Who wrote this crap? Genius At Work And why? And why should anybody take note of fiction as if it was true? Like footsteps in the sand or any of the parables attributed to Jesus? That particular one shows to me that whoever wrote it does not understand evolution, so I am assuming it was probably written by a Christian, but having said that most atheists don't understand evolution either.

Have an original thought

Martin J Willett