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Isn't it odd, how evolutionists put their
faith in the protocell lottery - that is, about one in a billion
chances of having arisen from non-life - then, turn right around
and dismiss any probability, (however remote) of protocell (apes
and man) being God's creation.
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I, and I think Martin too, look at all the
evidence presented and make our best estimate of what the truth
is based on that evidence. I understand the arguments and see evidence
of how it is possible that over billions of years across billions
of light years, a few chemicals could have gotten together and have
the tendency to replicate. Once this starts, and has stable conditions
for a few geologic blinks, more and more complexity will arise as
the replicators compete for limited resources. I don't have proof
of course, but absolute proof is very elusive in any endeavor.
I have listened to the evidence for the God
hypothesis and have found it much easier to explain the evidence
by the need of humans to have an explanation for natural phenomena.
When an explanation was not forthcoming, God was brought in. In
the recent past there has been less of a need for God to explain
these phenomena, however the political and social structures associated
with God's followers still exist. The ideas, such as that of eternal
life after death, are still popular and get repeated. The concept
of faith gets attached to these ideas. Faith acts like a wall that
hinders questioning of an idea, helping it persist.
I must admit that I am not sure what evidence
it would take for me to believe that we were created by God. But,
if God does exist but cannot be detected, then isn't he irrelevant?
You might say that people feel--detect--the presence of God in their
soul. I have had similar emotions and can understand that they needn't
come from a supernatural creator, but can be created from a super
complex brain. I don't dismiss the probability of a creator God,
I just haven't seen any convincing evidence for one. Why don't you
visit the
forum where you can discuss your ideas with a broader crowd.
Mark
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I don't put my faith in any lottery. I believe in evolution, which is about
as far from a lottery as it is possible to get. The deliberate ignoring
of the fundamental process of evolution, wilful ignorance is the only
way to describe it, is the primary way the religious maintain their belief
system. I have never met a religious person who could demonstrate an understanding
of evolution. Of course millions of people believe that they understand
evolution, but that is not the same thing. I have challenged several Christians
to demonstrate such an understanding but none have met the challenge.
If we are the results of a creator god why does he get so much wrong?
And if evolution is the only way he can create, what is the point in worshipping
him? Why would an all-powerful god allow people to tell blasphemous falsehoods
about him and yet also try to communicate with us through "genuine prophets"?
And if he is not all-powerful why worship him? Can you explain why you
believe what you believe? By that I mean why you have taken the dominant
religious theme that has run through the society you happen to be born
into. In what sense can this be seen as a personal choice? Or a rational
choice? Can you also explain why your religion is popular where it and
not popular where it isn't? I can. Can you explain why God allowed most
men to die ignorant of his message? Or why he decided to send his only
begotten son down into an area where other one true gods had several times
impregnated virgins with their sons? Or what exactly has changed in the
last 2002 years? And why is that not obvious?
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Dear Martin,
are atheists' inflated opinions of their
intellect - like they (collectively) own the word. You may be world
travelers, but the question still remains: Do you get out enough?
Have a nice day!
Sue
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Interesting thoughts, they are almost in sentences. Keep trying,
perhaps you will master them eventually.
There is an implicit assumption in your message that "getting out"
is in some way good. Getting out and changing ourselves into reflections
of the people around us? This might be a good thing if the other
people we might interact with had a better bead on reality than
we have. Is there any evidence for this? The people who get out
more fit in better, because they adapt themselves to the world.
Did Jesus fit in? Or did he try to get the world to fit with his
ideas? Which lesson should we learn, do as I say or do as I do?
Lies damn lies and parables. Who wrote this crap? Genius
At Work And why? And why should anybody take note of fiction
as if it was true? Like footsteps
in the sand or any of the parables attributed to Jesus? That
particular one shows to me that whoever wrote it does not understand
evolution, so I am assuming it was probably written by a Christian,
but having said that most atheists don't understand evolution either.
Have an original thought
Martin J Willett
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