The UnderclassI will have to have another go at that piece, so many people misunderstand my intention. The point about destroying the underclass is about ridding the world of damaged people who go on to damage our society. The poor and excluded are damaged people, the system has damaged them but they are spreading more damage. Consider the analogy of radioactivity, they have been damaged by the original cause (bad economic and social system) but they are now so polluted by this damage that they are now also a major problem in themselves. The ideal solution is to turn back the clock and reverse the damage, but it will not happen. So alternatives must be found, I am suggesting that the left wakes up to the fact that the underclass are damaged. If you take the damaged people out of their damaged environment and put them in a new clean environment they will damage it. This was proved in the sixties with many social housing schemes. Something more radical needs to be done, although I am not sure exactly what. Probably some kind of concerted effort to change the system, change the economic system and simultaneously attack the culture of despair. The proletariat will never be a force for good, the point is that they need not be quite as dangerous to live with. I agree with your analysis about the machinery of capitalism, the greed that drives the system. Something needs to be done about it. I saw myself how the systemic greed mangled a good company. I used to work for Betterware (a company that sells cleaning materials and household gadgets in a similar way to Avon, door to door) from 1990 to 1996, I was a regional manager. The company grew rapidly to the point at which it had reached saturation of the potential market, the British market was as exploited as much as it was reasonably possible to achieve. Further increases in sales could not be achieved above the single figure percentages increases possible by fine tuning the product range. However the company had floated on the stock market, gone plc. The market wanted more of the 50% growth in sales that they had seen in the previous years. Stock market pressures nearly destroyed the goose that was laying the golden eggs. The company at its height had a huge market share, excellent profits, state of the art warehousing, good management and no debts. It was doing great. Greed has caused massive problems in the last seven years since the company reached the high plateau. Good is never good enough. The sales force and middle management team making the sales were perfectly happy to continue the proven system, serving loyal and satisfied customers, but the pressure was always on for more sales. I have had contact with many people within the company who tell me I got out at the right time. There is a problem with capitalism, the system as currently operating. The drive for growth is causing damage to lives and companies not just to the environment. Welfare.The answer has to be some form of negative income tax. Everybody needs a tax code, a figure that the tax authorities will allow them to earn before income tax is deducted at the normal rates. This is based on their circumstances. Welfare entitlements are also calculated on a somewhat similar basis. My suggestion is to combine the systems. Everybody has a unique code which is their minimum income guarantee. Earnings above that figure are taxed, below that figure are topped up by state payments. The tough part is to ensure that people declare all earnings and are taxed on them and to ensure that employers do not use the state safety net as an excuse not to pay decent wages. My magic solution is openness. This really is radical! Publish everybody's tax details, no exceptions. Naturally that could only be done via the web. If everybody knows that their previous year's income figures are published a lot of things change. Salesmen can't pretend they earn as much as they used to pretend in job interviews. Politicians have to be clean and honest. Employers paying poverty wages and living in luxury will have some explaining to do. SexualityThe jury is certainly out. I think there is no simple explanation because it is a multifaceted phenomenon. There is attraction to one sex, the other or both. Then there is behaviour. I suspect that many men have some tendency towards homosexual activity but they are distinct from the true homosexuals who are actively attracted to men in just the same way as heterosexual women are attracted to men. My gay work colleague is a real mixed up guy, he has typically male patterns of spatial awareness and relatively poor word skills but in other ways he is a woman with a dick. He is attracted to men in the way that women are, but with a typically male pattern of obsession to it. He collects soft gay porn. He talks like Joan Rivers and has as a similar kind of high bad taste. I once asked him which he would prefer, a gay man or a straight man who loved only him, he would prefer the latter. His boyfriend seems like a perfectly normal heterosexual male apart from his attraction to a camp man instead of a woman. They are homosexuals, but they are like two different genders within homosexuality. This sexuality thing is far too complicated to dismiss in one or two categories. When you start looking at women the waters get even muddier.
I suppose bisexuality is pretty much normal after all, at least rather common. But I stick by the rejection of latent homosexuality as an explanation of homophobia. Big ProblemWhy can the Catholics talk about overpopulation and optimum populations without seeing that birth control, effective birth control, must happen one day whatever the acceptable population level is? The Language of ManYes English is inconsistent but it is the biggest language and the most open to new ideas. It is growing into a world-wide language anyway, to make Mexicans and Senegalese learn German would be absurd. English is becoming the world's second language. My suggestion is just to accept it and make it work. Don't fight the tide, surf it. As to the idea of learning five languages, that would be torture, and it would never be possible to select the right five, people would be squabbling about it for ever. English is big, global, widespread and also, quite importantly, it's cool. Bomfunk MCs don't rap in Finnish. Restart the calendar.1950 was never a serious suggestion. 1859 is the one. Evolution by natural selection, the greatest discovery in our history, everything that was ever said about the place of man in the Universe before that date was rendered obsolete by that discovery. Could there ever be a better year zero? 1950 is simply the year assumed to be the present day when ages are calculated as 12,000 YBP, years before the present. It was just a nearby round date when the convention began. It was not the start of the scientific era! Printing was a big step too, I grant you, but not as big as becoming aware of our true place in the Universe. Aliens
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The one big difference I have with you is the assumption that aliens must need technology way in advance of ours in order to get here. They only need a spaceship. That is not fabulous technology. Apollo was a spaceship. It took men beyond the Earth and the only reason we have not gone further is lack of will to spend the money. The technology to send automated scouting ships to other planetary systems is only a generation away if we have the will to develop it. Imagine that we suddenly hear alien signals suggesting a Marconi level civilization nearby, could you not imagine an international effort to send a probe to gather information and consider the possibility of making contact? We couldn't just ignore it, we would know that if we can detect them, they could detect us, and our history tells us that in alien contact there is no such thing as home court advantage.
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That's enough for now. You obviously didn't take much notice of my suggestion, on my e-mail page, to keep the first message brief. Anyway, it is good to receive a message that doesn't say I am right or wrong about everything.
Martin
Hello again, Real life is such a pain, isn't it? I would have replied sooner otherwise.
I prefer the phrase "from cradle to grave" on this. These people are overgrown infants who have come to depend on the system, and when the parent suddenly cuts off, they won't be able to deal with it. As with nursing, they must be weaned off the system or bottle and be taught to walk on their own. Change never happened in China during its dynasties, despite their many useful inventions (the compass, block printing, gunpowder, etc.) because there was no incentive to advance in life. Under Ming, you could not improve your lot through hard work, so no one made use of these things. Today, however, the reverse is the case: people can do nothing and get by. What's needed is incentive: "In two years, we cut off your welfare permanently" or something similar. *Force* people to change; as long as the safety net exists, people will fall willingly and just lie in it. Seeing the scissors coming to cut the strings will motivate you.
Side note: nice to see somebody willing to say "I don't know" instead of saying something stupid just so he doesn't sound ignorant. Welfare.In Canada there is a personal deductible amount on income tax ($6,274 last year) which means if you earn less than that, you don't pay any income tax. So why not up that limit to $9,000 per person instead of what it currently is? It would reduce government tax revenue by $463 per person, but put another $2,700 back into the economy - more jobs, more spending, more taxes in the future. And it would certainly be another incentive for the poor to work. (I'm taking a tax preparing course, so I'm really gung ho for tax related discussions.) Just one question: [regarding openness in taxation] wouldn't you be embarrassed to have people know what you made and where you worked if you're trying to maintain a social illusion of being wealthier than you are? This could be personally devastating to some people. SexualityI have never understood many men's fascination with seeing two women going at it. "Either they're disgusted or they want to watch," a character said once on NBC's "Law & Order". I find western pornography ugly and boring. I want to see passion, not penetration. I won't delve into my own history, but my best sex has always where there was affection - not romance, but genuine caring between me and him or her, short or long term. The cuddling after is much better than the orgasm, the affection I get after the vulnerable feeling of sex. "Once is experiment, twice is a fetish" goes the only saying. Nothing wrong with trying new things. Personally, I can't stand the "limp wristed" way of being; I view it the same as an accent, although I sometimes think it's an act. If it is, they why can't people just be themselves? I'm not one particular way, I'm just me, and I like it. Big ProblemI'm sure one day we'll see a fat pope saying "starvation is a gift from god". The Language of ManTo an adult [learning 5 languages] is torture, but to children it's not. Languages are learned fastest before age 13; just look at Europe - so many people there speak two or more languages. Icelanders, despite being almost totally bilingual (near everyone can speak both Icelandic _and_ English) feel no fear of cultural imperialism, and they number only 250,000. Why should we English speaking people be afraid of learning 300 words of another language, enough to hold everyday conversations?
And cultural nuances are lost in translation. I have no fear of other languages because I see the cultural value in them, that it's as much a part of others as their food or music. Even if you don't try to learn another language, read about another culture, learn what they think and know, their habits and taboos. It'll open your mind so much. Extinction is equally tragic for animal species and languages. Restart the calendar.
By that standard, we'd be better off thinking of Archimedes or another ancient Greek in restarting the calendar. They may not have discovered DNA, but as Newton said "We see further because we stand on the shoulders of giants". We only have today's civilization because of the Greeks, Babylonians, Chinese, and Egyptians. Side note: last January time magazine listed its 100 people of the millennium (a year too early, of course) and they listed Gutenberg as the most important. I said that on usenet a year earlier. Who else has had such an effect on the world except him? Without the printing press, Darwin probably wouldn't even be known and I'd have been born in Wales, not Canada. Aliens
I must disagree. The fuel needed to travel has to come from somewhere; planets have gravity, so lifting it off would be massively expensive - the Saturn V rockets barely reached the moon without spare fuel. So that means once escape velocity has been reached, we're dependent on frictionlessness of space. The Voyager satellites that left the Earth in the mid-1970s only got past Pluto in 1996. That's over 350,000,000 in 20 years, or 2,000 miles per hour. Even if we kept 25,000 MPH going (Earth's escape velocity), it would take 115,000 years to get to the nearest star. (I just did the math.) With nuclear propulsion, you could speed it up and need less fuel, but even a 1,000 years would be too long for us. If you mean sending a "kilroy wuz here" message to the universe, sure, that's easy enough, but to find and contact intelligent life, in all likelihood, would take longer than humanity will exist into the future. I just can't see it being possible without light speed travel.
Never mind governments, private SETI-style groups could do it with current technology, except for Americans because of the stupid J. Edgar Hoover law regarding alien contact. I'd be ecstatic, but I'll wait until it happens. ("Hey bible thumpers! Are they a side-project of god's, or is the bible a bunch of fairy tales?") We couldn't just ignore it, we would know that if we can detect them, they could detect us, and our history tells us that in alien contact there is no such thing as home court advantage. That's a wholly American attitude, from never having fought a war on home soil since 1812. ^_^ The Vietnamese might have a different attitude.
Just exactly who is receptive to "you're an idiot because..."? You can't change someone's mind when you've ticked them off. (I'm clarifying and pointing out other thoughts, not changing your mind.) There's a saying:
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The problem of the poor who are dependant on the state is a big one. I have no real solutions to offer. All I can say is that various forms of it occur in different times and places. Bertie Wooster, a refugee and the welfare mother. All part of the same phenomenon. When the capacity to take charity is as big as the capacity to give it dependency is created and a culture of dependency is created. It is made worse by the professional charity worker, the person who spends all their time on administering charity, they legitimize the system even more.
Some form of tough love is probably the best option. We cannot let people starve but on the other hand we cannot let people lapse into the role of charity recipient and become comfortable with it. Perhaps the answer lies in some form of workhouse system, an ultimate safety net that offered a subsistence living but one that was so marginally above the level of human decency that nobody would want to fall into it. It is not a prospect that fills me with joy but it might be the only solution. Tell those people who are avoiding work that we, the state, will offer them every assistance to find work but, ultimately if they fail to take any they will be re-housed in single sex, single room accommodation and made to work for their food and warmth, their children put up for permanent adoption far away. If such a safety net system was introduced I think the stigma on us, who allow it, would be so great that we would do our best to keep the workhouses empty.
The first thing I have to say is that all my political ideas are based around the idea of the single state, the world as one. In the world of nation states things get more complicated.
I think income tax is the fairest tax of all, when drafted right it should ensure that all pay in proportion to their ability to pay. But in a single closed loop economy tax at the point of purchase is just as effective. There would be no need to do both taxes. I suggest the income tax is probably the better one because it also allows the collection of data on incomes. At present a lot of people do try to hide the true level of their income but I cannot see why this should be allowed to remain the case. I have never had a problem with it. I have earned less than the people around me and more than the people around me, I understand it from both ways around but I see no difficulty either way. At the moment some people try to make out that they earn more than they do in reality and some try to do the opposite. The interests of society at large are in honesty and reducing income inequalities. Honesty and openness will lead to a society that is working towards equality and income differentials that can be justified on the basis of fairness and social utility.
If people are trying to maintain an illusion of wealth and this policy shatters it then great, I am all for it. The right to lie is not on my list of basic human rights.
My sex life is good in reality and extreme in fantasy. In real life I am comfortable with my sex life. I have been 100% faithful to wife in deed since I met her. In thoughts, well, that's my own business.
Learning a second or third language is good, but you rapidly get into diminishing returns. In Wales it has been found that bilingual children learn a little better and can be better motivated. I am all in favour of language classes for children, starting probably at 7 or 8, a compulsory second language and an optional third language. I know my daughter wants to learn French, and she is ready for it, but she will have to wait until age 11, which is a shame.
The idea of learning five languages is too much, unless there is a radical shake up of the school system and an increase in the number of hours or days taught each year. Even if that did happen I don't think a fourth language could ever be justified except for the students who have wonderful language ability and nothing else.
I do not see extinction of languages as being such a bad thing. Extinction is a natural part of evolution. 99% of all species are extinct but you could still spend a lifetime reciting the Latin names of all the extant species.
Gutenberg.He was just this guy. Printing was important, but not the printer. Send Terminator back and sort him out and you would change the world, but you would not find us all living without printing. Anyway, ask yourself who rates him as important and what line of business are they in...print media, QED. |
Journalists rate Gutenberg. Actors rate Shakespeare. Physicists rate Newton. Christians rate Jesus. I rate Darwin, none of his ideas were totally novel but he pulled it all together and made a true synthesis. His understanding was phenomenal, he was the greatest scientist ever, he made the single most important discovery any sentient being or race can make. Any great discovery in science or technology is bound to be invented eventually, when discoveries are made out of their time they die. There is a fascinating book I read once about the earliest known inventions or uses of various things, I can't remember the title but it was a mind-blowing book because it showed so many apparently modern ideas go way back into history e.g. communism came before the Roman empire. And Babbage's computer, brilliant invention, wrong century.
The important thing to remember is that once you are in Earth orbit you are half way to wherever you want to go. To launch a high speed probe out of the solar system will take some ingenuity but a staged approach using chemical rockets, slingshot effect of planetary gravity, ion drive and finally photon drive could accelerate a probe to a high speed. If we really wanted to do it we would have done it already. It only takes focus. As for fuel it need not come from anywhere as inconveniently massive as Earth, the Moon, Mars and various minor planets of the asteroid belt could provide sufficient material. I expect that some kind of electrical launch system could be developed, a linear induction motor supergun perhaps?
Anyway, the main point is that when and if they arrive it is not by any means certain that they will be significantly in advance of ourselves. They could be, like the Portuguese who turned up in Japan, simply better at navigation and transport technology but not by any stretch of the imagination more civilized.
As for home court advantage the opposite applies, it is better to be the colonizer than the colonized, at least you can always retreat if there is a problem. (You do know I'm English, don't you? I have thought about using "I'm English, Sorry." as a signature for e-mail.)
I see your point about Vietnam to a degree, being at home was an advantage in a way but there was also a distinct asymmetry about that war, the US could only win by winning, the Vietnamese only had to not lose. North Vietnam could never beat the US, they could never march down Pennsylvania Avenue in triumph. All they had to do was keep fighting. There was another asymmetry too, like the rabbit and the fox, the life-dinner principle, the North Vietnamese were fighting for their lives, the US was fighting for its dinner. A similar asymmetry was at work in the Battle of Britain, Hitler had to destroy the RAF, all the RAF had to do was not be destroyed. The British could not afford to lose, the Germans could not afford to win. Once you stop winning a war starting to lose becomes easier.
That's enough for now,
Martin
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