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though i agree with many of the things
you write and cant help wondering if youre not just replacing religion
with science, you seem to blindly quote science and put your faith
in concepts like evolution but at the end of the day arent these
mere beliefs too?
andrew.
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The whole point about science is that it is not blind. Religious faith
is blind because The Truth is written in The Book, end of debate. Science
is rewriting the book all the time. If there is evidence that evolution
is untrue science will move on. If there is evidence that evolution is
true religion will decry it for all eternity.
Science doesn't blindly trust itself. Putting belief in anything else
is not being blind, it is being deliberately ignorant. Science is rational,
putting trust in anything else is irrational. “Alternative ways
of knowing” are simply wrong, unless proved valid by rational methods.
There is no rational reason to expect human minds to be able to directly
perceive truth, and thousands of years of evidence that this ability does
not exist.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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I only read part of your web site, I feel so sorry for you. Maybe
one day you will actually take the Bible and read it with an open
mind and especially an open heart. Do you only believe things that
you see? If so, then you don't believe anything you hear because
you don't see it. Do you believe in WW1?....did you see it? If you
allowed God into your heart then you would see him work within you,
it is amazing. We as Christians are to pray for the lost and I will
pray for you. Maybe you will open yourself and realize that if you
believe with all your heart you won't go to the fiery burning hell.
You have alot of hostility within yourself or is this just you trying
to be cool, most people do grow out of trying to be so cool, so
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Good Morning Martin,
I enjoyed your article, it is 'right on'.
Great logic you have, I lost all belief at 9 years of age and have
never understood how a human mind
can accept religious 'belief' my greatest hero of all time is Robert
Green Ingersoll, I am sure you have
read his essays, if not look him up, you will find his writtings
of great value.
Brian Gard (Pocatello Idaho - home of the 'incurably religious'
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Hello.
I am responding to your writings on the so-called fallacy of the
American Dream. If I understand your position, you are saying that
people who produce wealth do so at the expense of those who produce
nothing. If that is your stance, please explain why you believe
that
no person has a right to expect recompense for his/her own productive
effort. This means that these productive people are slaves to those
whose sole claim on the fruits of their labor is the fact that they
could not aspire to such a height themselves.
Wealth is not a static commodity to be distributed by some arbitrary
benefactor. It must be created. The person who invented the wheel
did
so of his own volition, and owes nothing to any tribesman who
contributed nothing to that achievement. Why shouldn't he expect
some
reward, when he has eased the burden on every human who follows
him?
Ben Classon
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If you understood my position. But you probably don't.
The wheel story is a great one. How much was the patent on the
wheel worth? Nothing. There was no patent system. The wheel was
invented because it was useful. It was copied because its usefulness
was apparent. In what way is the inventor of the wheel harmed by
other people using wheels? How many useful things were thought about
but not made because the inventor wanted to become a billionaire
before it was worth his while making his invention?
When do you expect to become a billionaire?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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When You Mean You Hug Tree's do you actually put your extremities
inside the holes of tree's also? If so, I would consider you a tree
fucker and not a tree hugger. Also why do tree's smell like a da
douche? U FUCKING DOUCHE BAG! |
Why do you hate so much? Are you a Christian?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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Yes actually I am a christian and also a contractor, I build
churches made of of tree's and print junk mail (made out of tree's)
which i am a proud member of color graphics inc. as a well known
pressman.
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I thought so. You really can't beat a Christian for mindless
and illiterate hate and seeing the worst in people.
You must be so proud of yourself, spreading hate and ignorance
wherever you go.
Spoil the planet for Jesus and God
bless America, eh?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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BILL MAN wrote:
And I guess your Canadien, eh? |
When I publish this on my website people will think I made you
up.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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martin, this is really bad what you're doing. But let me introduce
myself. My name is Lori, i work as a perfume consultant and as a
result do occasional modelling work. I'm also doing my bachalor
of nursing and i live in sydney. I went to your site because i was
looking for some information for an assignment i was doing and came
across something that was so much worse.
Honestly, i think you're a really bad person. What you are doing
on this site is bringing out the hatred of this world. You don't
have to agree with the Bible, but what you do need to do is respect
it. There are so many people out there that would happily kick the
shit through yo if they saw you on the street for what you have
said. Making your site 'contraversial' may get you higher site-ratings
but what is set to come to you is something that is so much worse
that getting worldly attention because of your 'contraversial site'.
Saying the Bible is a joke? mmm... that's real mature martin.
Whether you like it or not i will be praying. I know there's a
God and i know inside you do too. I just hope when the time comes
that God is merciful to you because there would be nothing worse
than not being saved.
Have a nice day martin
Lori
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Sell your car for $9 on carpoint.com.au |
Why do I need to respect the Bible? It is a book of lies that
claims to define the very essence of truth: it is a blasphemy against
reason. Fiction that knows it is fiction I can cope with, fiction
that pretends it's true is annoying, fiction that pretends it is
superior to science is an insult to my species and I that is an
insult I take personally.
The Bible is full of lies. People have knowingly manipulated the
text to "predict" what had already happened. People are
still lying to support those earlier lies. No matter how old a lie
is it never becomes true and it never deserves respect. All lies
deserve uncovering, that is the only moral thing to do with lies,
paying them lip service and pretending to respect them is spineless.
Human nature does not change, and has not changed in thousands
of years. People who start new religions today are charlatans and/or
madmen. People who started religions thousands of years ago were
charlatans and/or madmen. There was nothing special about one particular
tribe of genocidally inclined goat herders. There was no Holy Land,
no Biblical Times and there is no Chosen People. Just people doing
what people have always done: tell each other stories and pretend
to understand what's really going on.
You are dead wrong. Deep down inside I know there are no gods.
It might suit you to think that everybody deep down is actually
you in denial but it isn't true.
Are many of your friends Christian shit kickers?
Didn't Christ once say "Blessèd are the shit kickers"?
No. I don't believe he did.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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hey what was the womens name who was killed along with her son
and grandaughter? see what happen to them i bet they were saying
MY GOD, PLEASE DONT KILL ME! |
Hmmm. And when Robin said "Holy Mackerel Batman!" he
was demonstrating his fervent belief in a piscine deity?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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Dear Editor, I have what I feel to be an important question,
I'm 23 years old and married. I have no desire to ever have any
children, however my wife is 28 yrs. old and feels differently.
She recently "missed" a pill, not on purpose but in the
midst of returning home from vacation and after her most recent
period. My question is, and it may sound silly, is there less potetnial
for her to get pregnant if I masturbate regualrly apporx. 3 times
daily with having intercourse about 3 times per week? I guess partially
what I'm trying to do is keep my sperm count low on purpose because
I have little faith in birth control. I've even requested a vasectomy,
but the doctor won't go for it. Any advice you can give me would
be appreciated. Also I have thoroughly read your article but saw
that low/no masturbation as well as too much can keep a sperm count
low, but a more detailed opinion from you would be taken seriously
on my part.
Thank you ,
Sincerly
[name withheld] |
You wouldn't have the stamina to masturbate often enough to prevent
problems, your wrist might give out before your penis. Masturbating
as much as you want would be inclined to make your ejaculate more
fertile. To reduce the sperm count to levels which would present
a negligible risk you would need to ejaculate six times in the hour
before having sex, that sort of feat is a once in a lifetime achievement
for most men and more suited to 16 year olds than 23 year olds.
If you are worried about your wife becoming pregnant use condoms
until her next period or stick to mutual masturbation, it won't
kill you for a few weeks, at least it is a lot less likely to kill
you than your original plan.
At the age of 23 I think your doctor is right about the vasectomy,
you are too young to make such an important decision.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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I hope I don't come off as insincere but I have a question that
I believe is relevant:
Why is Christianity such a problem?
If you are a firm Atheist who believes what he believes and is
happy with how he runs his life, then why do you devote a life and
website to arguing and deflating people who believe otherwise? It
should not be a big deal to you, let people believe what they believe
as long as it works for them. Your atheism works for you, does it
not? Then I don't see the point.......why does everyone need to
believe what you do? You may say we don't, but read what you write
and the spirit in which it is written . You criticize others for
what they believe. I don't think a Christian would criticize/ridicule
you. You are told you are WRONG? Well if someone told me I was wrong,
it would not affect my belief if I was firm in it, and I CERTAINLY
would not be moved to blast them for their stupidity. I respect
a person who has strong beliefs, whether I believe them to be right
or wrong. Respect is what's missing from this website.
On the topic of bitterness you say:
Some people accuse me of being bitter and twisted. Cynical and
sneering, belittling people who make a go of their lives. Fair comment.
I quote "Atheism is a Gamble" in your website , the ending
to your response to Renee Florida's letter:
"Go on, waste your life spreading traditional lies backed
up with the fear of eternal torture, see if I care. See if the universe
cares."
My point is : Why do YOU care?
It shouldn't provoke such an emotional response. But Christ has
always provoked a strong response. You either believe or you don't.
It's sounds like you have been ridden high and dry for not believing
in God, but honestly, you should be able to blow it off, your beliefs
should bring you peace. I've yet to come across an Atheist who ISN'T
bitter. What's the bitterness about??? Is it at the belief of a
God that lets evil things happen? Is it a life event? Why the FOCUS
on evil in the world in the first place, than at the good the message
that Christ brings? You might say, well those that are lukewarm
are just "wimps"........does that make them less atheist
and have less integrity? A Christian who isn't a Billy Graham isn't
less of a Christian. And it would be bad logic to say they "just
aren't as committed in their belief. I don't see where Christianity
hurts anyone. If it enriches their life and makes them happy then
where is the harm? Is it an evil, immoral plan for life? No. Where
is the smoking gun? We'd all be better people if we followed Jesus'
example. Even if (as you say) Jesus didn't exist. We both think
we know how it is. But my point is, at the end of the day, can't
we respectfully disagree? If I had a website about why you should
believe in God, I would be persuasive but not insulting. I would
want to influence but not preach. I would not talk condescendingly.
One last question on your statement on atheists who covert: Why
does an atheist who converts to Christianity prove he was weak in
his atheism BUT a Christian who becomes an Atheist NOT PROVE he
was WEAK in his Christianity ? You would say the atheist just wasn't
"well schooled enough", but a Christian who falls, we
can't say they just weren't well schooled enough........ they must
have finally" found the light" of atheism.
Michele
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Why do I care? Because I can see how much time and energy is
invested in lies. How many man-millennia of effort has been "invested"
in god-belief? Significantly more than has been channelled into
any other human endeavour of any kind. If that investment was put
into science and technology we would be having colonies on the moons
of, well, that big planet with the red spot named after a god. If
that effort had been put into building a free and fair political
structure there would be peace on Earth and goodwill to all men
and nobody would have to get nailed to anything.
If everybody followed the example of Jesus where would the world
be? Let's think about that shall we. If everybody gave up their
work and went around with twelve accomplices begging and telling
everybody else how to live their life would the world be a better
place? If everybody did magic tricks to convince the people watching
that they were magic would the world be a better place? If everybody
got themselves tortured to death to seal a bargain that nobody explained
beforehand or at the time in which they engineered their own death
to save the world from their father's wrath and so gained everlasting life for everybody
who believed the story without proof would the world be a better
place? No, it would be a world full of crazy people obsessed with
death and sacrifice.
The story of Jesus is the story of a madman, a travelling beggar
who did conjuring tricks, told stories and did a bit of exorcism
for theatrical effect. He didn't do anything much to set an example
to his followers except show how to get killed, that seems to be
his biggest legacy. When people "follow in the footsteps of
Christ" they do no such thing. People do not go out and get
themselves tortured and killed so their followers can found a new
religion in their name.
Your arrogance amazes me. You seem to think that I actually believe
in your stories and I am lying about being an atheist. Not so. I
did not go through the systematic brainwashing that seems to be
characteristic of Americans.
Why shouldn't I feel bitter? Billions of people are telling each
other lies and are slandering my species. I take that personally.
I don't see why people should be expected to react angrily if people
slander their family, race or nation but should be as meek as a
lamb when people systematically slander the entire species. Religions
slander me and my people because they slander humanity. I see no
reason to react differently to being called immoral and evil as
an individual or because I belong to a particular species. "Preacher
man, come outside and say that to my face".
Atheists who convert to Christianity are no such thing. The usual
case is that they are half-indoctrinated (or more) Christians going
through puberty who think that by denying God they can get laid,
get drunk and take drugs with impunity and appear smart. By denying
God he ceases to exist and they are free to do what they want. Then
they find out that there aren't that many people who actually want
to have sex with them who they want to have sex with. The "liberation"
palls and they start to feel guilty again. Childhood conditioning
reasserts itself, they start to want to believe in God again so
he can exist (either to love them or to punish bad people, and sometimes
both) and POOF by the magic of their cosmic consciousness God becomes
real again. I despise such people, those who think reality is affected
by their beliefs: arrogant tossers.
I despise people who choose to believe, whatever they believe.
Belief should be involuntary: this is what I must believe, but the
compulsion should never be imposed from outside. Religions impose
creeds which are lists of statements that the "believer"
is expected to make a point of believing. That is indoctrination
and it is evil. Always.
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],
who with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
You will believe this. We all do. You will be assimilated into
the church. Resistance is futile. You will accept every line. Say
it. Say it. No wine until you say it. If you don't say it you're
evil and nobody will like you. Say it. Believe it. Say it like you
mean it. Say it!
I never tell anybody to believe what I believe, I explain what
I believe and invite them to consider it. When people tell me they
agree with me I feel good, and then I go back and check to see if
I can't come up with something even better.
I have just found out my daughter is an atheist today, and has
been for about three years. I am delighted. I don't make anybody
believe anything, I explain what I believe and invite them to agree
with me.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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Martin,
Though I appreciate your candid point of view on many topics, there
was one paragraph in the "Atheism" section I took objection
to. I believe it is mentioned that anyone who believes in Fate,
astrology, and Feng Shui is a "weirdo". I have always
considered myself an idealistic agnostic, my "deity" is
Fate, and I do practice both Western and Chinese astrology. It wasn't
the "weirdo" part that chafed me, however, but the "open,
vacant mind" part. Open mind, yes. Vacant? Never. In fact,
you might be surprised how many intelligent people believe in Fate.
But to chastise someone for their beliefs... what does that say
about your intelligence level? This type of elitist behavior is
something I would expect from a hard-nosed fire-and-brimstone Baptist.
To think that someone who apparently has such forward-thinking views
on other subjects could mock another's belief... but I guess that's
part of me being an idealist. Instead of wasting space on what could
be a thought-provoking topic, shouldn't you be trying to promote
religious tolerance - for all belief systems - and not painting
people who have different beliefs (ie the "weirdoes")
as backwards-thinking dunces?
Corrine
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Fate means the future
sucks and that what goes around affects what comes around. I don't see any evidence for that and I don't
see any evidence for a mechanism, I don't see how such a mechanism
could operate and I don't see any reason for such a mechanism to
exist. In the absence of such evidence I don't believe in such concepts.
I don't see any reason to be tolerant of error, unjustified superstition
or wishful thinking. And I don't see any reason to apologize for
having rational views and expressing them.
I don't claim that people who believe in fate are stupid, I believe
they are wrong, and your defence of your beliefs seems to be able
to be summed up as “aww, please don't call me stupid”.
You're not stupid, you're wrong, that is what I will continue to
believe until I am presented with a good case for changing my mind.
Are you prepared to put your beliefs to the test of sceptical questioning?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org
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